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WHY The Need For It?!?!

WHY The Need For It?!?!

Why did Arsenal Manager Arsene Wenger feel the need to attack Blackburn Rovers after the 1-1 draw at Ewood Park on Sunday afternoon? Was it justified, or just him moaning like he does? Help me out guys!!!

I write this without the benefit of having seen the match on Sunday afternoon, work commitments have ensured that the only view or opinion I have on the events of Sunday afternoon at Ewood Park are those which I see in print, and the VERY limited highlights that I have seen.

After the game Wenger felt the need to attack Rovers, when he branded them violent. He told the BBC: "I felt there was a desire for violence more than commitment in their challenges.

"We dealt well with the problem we had against a team that was over-physical

Again, as I say I find it very difficult to comment on the subject as I have not seen ANYWHERE NEAR enough to know what exactly happened, but from what I can make out it was nothing more than a competitive match in which Rovers gave as good as they got, with it actually being Robin Van Persie who produced the games worse challenge (which only saw him see yellow, when it maybe should have been red?!?!)

Mark Hughes felt that Rovers had the better of the game, which he felt was competitive, nothing more nothing less and Wenger's comments disappointed him, he responded (again to the BBC) with: "That attitude by Wenger surprises me.

"The worst challenge was by Van Persie on Stephen Warnock.

"It was very competitive and I thought we dominated the game. We were the better side. We showed great character and equipped ourselves well against a top side

Rovers have had a reputation in the past (and I will hold my hands up and say a couple of years back RIGHTLY so) but just when you think they are betting past this along comes something like this, WHY the need for it Wenger??? EVERYONE knows that as soon as the worlds violence are mentioned in the same sentence as Rovers the VAST MAJORITY will take this as being the truth without any evidence needed.

I CAN'T stress enough that without the benefit of seeing ANY of this myself I don't know what to think, but I tend (naturally) to be swayed towards siding with the Rovers view on this (as you would expect) but from what I hear and see it would appear that this would not be a blinkered approach to do so. Wenger often sees what he wants to see and nothing more, was the fact that Rovers would not allow Arsenal to play (how dare they!!!) the thing that annoyed him? I honestly don`t know, I hope more of you can shed some light on this for me……


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Date:Monday August 20 2007
Time: 10:04PM


Don't read too much into what Wenger says to the media, he is only saying things for the benefit of his team, what affect it will have on them is his concern. In the Skysports media celebrity obsessed state of Englsih football, people tend to forget that some managers might actually be thinking of their team rather than the back pages or what another manager thinks. Wenger doesn't care if he is liked or disliked, or if he looks or sounds like an idiot, he only cares about his team and their condition, he will gladly sacrifice being a liked guy if it means maintaining the belief in his young side. Post match interviews are another oportunity to galvanise team spirit with the right comments, do you think Wenger is going to waste this opportunity?
Professor Calculus
20/08/2007 22:34:00
Professor Calculus, you are full of ****e. Rovers had a plan coming into this match -- play like 11 Robbie Savages (i.e. cheat, act like thugs, dive, and otherwise make nuisances of yourself). Wenger said it was violence because it WAS violence, anyone could see that. For example, Pedersen kneed Fabregas to the head in exactly the same way that Steven Hunt had cracked Petr Cech's skull last year. The only difference was that Fabregas didn't get hurt -- and also the fact that MGP MEANT to do it, it was quite clear he dropped his knee whereas Hunt didn't. That incident is not getting publicity merely because Cesc didn't get hurt, but if he had, rest assured MGP would be suspended for at least 10 games. Face it, your team are a bunch of criminals who can't compete with skill, so they have to resort to thuggery.
im a Arsenal home and away season ticket holder and was at the game and totally agree with wenger, you had one sent off and should have had more ie savage was most probably the dirtiest player and should have been sent off in the first half also savage takes people out like he is a hardman and goes down like a puff, its just plain pathetic. Van Persie did make a very bad tackle on warnock but had just been taken out himself so it was more retaliation and wouldnt have happened had the ref given him the freekick he deserved. overall it was a pathetic dirty performance from rovers and also you have crapy fans that just dont sing till they score and who cannot fill their stadium
21/08/2007 00:05:00
Reason Wenger said it was a response to a cynical and ugly approach from Blackburn. i recognize that managers say things to motivate their players or niggle other managers at times but here he called what he saw. Throughout the team blackburn were late and violent in the challenges, their plan was apparent and without subtlety, to throw a better side off their game and reduce the football to a level where blackburn can be Arsenal's equals.
hugh jarse
21/08/2007 00:20:00
wengers comments were spot on and so were warnock's about RVP. van persie made a bad tackle but the problem is blackburn got on the pitch with an agenda for violence (this point no one argues with) and thus we had to act accordingly. everyone knows arsenal just love to play football we do not have a malicious squad but the way your team appoached the game we had no choice but to make a stand and thats the gist of it. RVP has a hot head ill admit but he was provoked time and again. thats why you dont have too many blackburn fans responding to this article and if they do it will probably be more like toughen up or some **** like its a mans game. there were consistent, late, off the ball challenges on our players right from the start and the message was clear for anyone watching the game. As a footballing contest it was fairly even but sadly that was your second objective of the day. the way you played was a disgrace to the premiership and the game at large end of.
21/08/2007 00:25:00
Devvil, it wasn't his knee, MGP used his studs. It'll go down as an accident, but it definantly looked intentional as he easily could have stepped over Cesc, but nothing will be done about it. It really did warrent a red card. But at the same time, Flamini was lucky to stay on the pitch. He was booked after Savage dived, which was wrong, but he commited enough fouls to get a second yellow in the second half. BUT in all honesty, Blakcburn should have had 3 players sent off. I was expecting a physical game, but I cannot accept the violence (and that IS what it was) that was on display.
21/08/2007 00:34:00
when an entire team comes out with an agenda like that it stinks of pre-meditation. mark hughes or one of the leaders of the team must have given them the nod to participate in this barbaric manner. if one or two players (primarily savage) behave like that its down to there personality or compensation for lack of talent but when the entire team behaves that way then we know they thought of it before the game and actively pursued this strategy and as blackburn fans you are fokaz to defend your team. just coz you are a fan doesnt mean you turn a blind eye when your team behaves like that. at arsenal we gave eboue and RVP stick for diving coz its not how we want our club represented you should do the same starting with you "hughes da man"
21/08/2007 03:54:00
Crikey HDM, I think you've stirred up a Gooners nest. I think not many BR fans are responding because we're simply not as worked up about it as you lot. BR played a tough physical game, there's no doubt about it, we put pressure on your players, and they didn't respond as well as you'd like. Coming out and saying we were violent because we played % tackled hard is just a bit rich, don't you think?
Desert Kiwi
21/08/2007 06:35:00
The Premiership is a tough league and Arsenal has learned to accept that there are teams out there who will come with a plan to disrupt the flow of football by kivking us off the ball. There will be no complaining about that. But there is a thin line between what is acceptable hard tackling and violence, and Blackburn definitely got very close to that line. Its a shame, desert kiwi, that you cannot see that. You are obviously not worked up because your team was not the victim of such 'tactics'.
21/08/2007 07:20:00
Hey Prits, fair comment. Yeah there is a fine line between hard tackling & violence, but I don't think we crossed it. And you are right - of course BR planned to disrupt Arsenal's game (and that will be the goal of just about every team that you play this year, because of the quality of your passing game). So yeah, I can see your point. I merely disagree about us being violent. I agree with Prof Calc in the first comment, that Wenger's saying we were violent is a way to galvanise his team - and, let's face it, BR is an easy target for these comments from a few years ago. Sadly, it takes a moment to acquire a reputation and a life-time to lose it.
Desert Kiwi
21/08/2007 07:45:00
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